In this conversation, Susan reflects on listening as both a vocation and a sanctuary. Together, we explore why deep listening is so difficult, how trust is cultivated in relationships, and how attentive listening can become a place of transformation. This episode is a gentle invitation to slow down and become more attentive to the quiet voice of God in everyday life.

In this conversation, Tom explores the joys of soul recreation, contemplation, and enjoying God. Drawing on the church's rich tradition and artistic engagement with Scripture, he invites listeners to slow down, notice God's presence, and consider the distractions that can draw us away from him.